Danni Carr
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Hello and welcome now to episode 11 of the Gentle Revolution Podcast where we seek to explore the nuance of human possibility to explore what it is that makes us better, better versions of ourselves, more in line with dharma our truth, a better way of living. And this episode. I'm really honored to connect with a good friend Danni Carr, who I've known for a good number of years now, and she is a well, very well known podcast host of the How I Quit Alcohol Podcast, one of Australia's the world's leading podcast where they explore how to quit alcohol for people with alcohol dependences, who are wishing to transcend the limitations of that.
Drug and a lead a, a life [00:01:00] beyond the consumption of alcohol. Danny offers a beautiful podcast and a whole series of amazing guests. She's actually interviewed me a number of times where I've been able to talk about my own journey with sobriety and exploring life without alcohol. And, , in this episode I was able to turn.
The microphone around and interview her and ask her very much about her journey with alcohol as I describe it, how I quit alcohol, which that's her Instagram handle. Some people refer to her as that. Uh, I had one of my good friends. Always referring to her. I say, how's it going with how I quit alcohol?
'cause Danny and I, good friends, we collaborate together. We've run numerous retreats together, and we do in fact, have another retreat planned for next year, June, 2026 in Bali. So we've collaborated on a whole bunch of levels. She's, in fact been my student. I was really fortunate to guide her into the [00:02:00] practice of Yoga Nidra, meditation, pranayama through our teacher training program.
And she has indeed been one of our St stellar graduates who's paid forward these practices to so many people. So the interview, yeah, gets to the heart of where. Danny has gone in her journey of how she quit alcohol, and it's a very personal share. We have a good laugh together. I hope you'll enjoy.
Danni: Hi Mark.
Mark: Danni Car. Need some skin.
Danni: Oh, hi Mark.
Mark: Hi Danni. Hi. Dear Danni and welcome
Danni: mm-hmm.
Mark: To the Gentle Revolution Podcast. I'm really honored that you have taken time out of your busy schedule to join me for this conversation. Thank you. I'm interested, I'm really interested in your story. I touched upon it a little bit earlier in the pude to this conversation that I found your story very interesting.
You're like, ah, [00:03:00] but it is interesting, and I'm sure many people will be interested, so look. I have entitled this, and I've been telling you this for ages and the reason I wanted do part of the podcast, I like such a great name for this podcast. It's called How I Quit Alcohol. Quit Alcohol. So I know you as Danni Carr, but some people know he as how I Quit Alcohol.
Danni: Yes. Apparently you told me that today
Mark: some people refer to other people by their Instagram handles and your Instagram handle is @howiquitalcohol. You've also got a website. So you created called I Quit alcohol. Oh, I quit Alcohol. Okay. How I quit Alcohol in your case is actually a very interesting topic of conversation and I do want to go there.
But the really interesting question is why did you quit alcohol?
Danni: Oh, because we allowed to swear.
Mark: Oh yeah.
Danni: Because I was a fuck quit on alcohol. Mostly.
Mark: Mostly no. Sometimes You're sure you're really funny.
Danni: Yeah. At times I [00:04:00] thought I was probably fun and thought that everyone was enjoying me as much as I was, but I don't know,
Mark: actually.
It's a tricky one. No, it's not an uncommon story.
Danni: No. So
Mark: human being on their own, sometimes funny, sometimes a bit depressed, sometimes happy, sometimes sad, et cetera, et cetera, add alcohol into the mix. I was very much like this. Unpredictable. Not quite sure where a
Danni: hundred percent,
Mark: where we would end up. So you did drink alcohol for a period of time in your life?
Danni: Yeah. I started, I grew up in Central Victoria and started drinking around about 13, 14. What else was there to do? Nothing else to get fingered on the oval. Oh God. Okay. Take that bit out.
Mark: No, leave that bit in for sure.
Danni: But finger
Mark: banging I think was,
Danni: But it is just, there was a culture of binge drinking there.
And not knowing then, or even up until a few years ago, what I know [00:05:00] now about trauma and things like that. But just grew up binge drinking. That's what we all did. That's how. I felt included, like I belonged and just kept up that cycle. So there was no off switch for me either.
Sometimes there'd be the off switch, but mostly it was just binge drinking, blackout drinking. And what you said then about not trusting yourself in the end. It felt yeah, like I didn't know what I was gonna get. Towards the end. And that felt really scary sometimes.
And it wasn't like, drinking all the time, but when I did, just giving it such a nudge that it was like just getting sick of, yeah. Waking up like that consistently and feeling terrible.
Mark: I know the feeling. It's, it's just such a similar story to mine that the the one thing that really resonated for me though was this feeling of.
Not being the person that I really wanted to be unfulfilled destiny. And I could feel my life with alcohol was going in this, which [00:06:00] was sometimes fun and sometimes adventurous. But there was this feeling of just being off track and that if I was gonna get back on track, and I had tried for a long time to get back on track whilst managing an alcohol habit, that I needed to do something radical.
And I sat and I prayed and I did lots of meditation. I was already. Doing meditation, yoga. But I'd go off and drink and end up in this similar spot again and again. I used to pray and question. I was like, what do I need to do? God, what do I need to do? And I get this, stop drinking Mark.
Stop drinking, mark, stop, drink. Same message Mark. Stop drinking. And sooner or later I came to a point where, look, I just didn't have a choice. I had to stop drinking. It was just I guess there's always a choice, the other, the choice in the other direction was getting. Less and less enticing.
And stepping into the great unknown of what does sobriety look like? What does that look like as an adult? And that was a big one, right?
Danni: Oh, totally. Yeah. Especially when you've grown up, like there was no, there wasn't a lot of people around me that were [00:07:00] sober. Lissie Turner.
Yoga teacher. She was, and I knew her as a trash bag as well.
Mark: Okay.
Danni: So she was quite a shining light for me. I was like, wow, that's possible.
Mark: It's possible and it doesn't look so bad.
Danni: Yeah. And then a couple of other friends as well. Ben Shiller, who you know he lived next door, so there was a few people there.
He might orbit Elton John. Not that I know him personally, but I You guys have got a thing. Yeah.
Mark: He gives you like front seats in concert. I
Danni: always get front row. So there, there was a few people, but it was definitely like not the norm, like all of that at the circles that we ran in.
It was just so much drinking.
Mark: You live in Australia, and particularly it seemed, our generation were like, and our parents' generation were power drinkers. Like I see a lot of my kids who were, and in that younger generation, maybe it's just what I'm seeing because I don't drink and my children's mother doesn't drink and.
The younger kids aren't so infatuated. It's still there, but it's, they're just not so infatuated with getting trashed. Maybe you mentioned before something and [00:08:00] 'cause you've studied, which we'll get to with gal mate, but he had suggested that our generation was a little bit lost somehow.
Could you explain why? Why my generation is lost?
Danni: Like our generation is lost. Yeah. Why
Mark: our generation, you mentioned something earlier. In today?
Danni: In essence, basically because as the generations have gone on, we've become more and more disconnected. And the family unit has become also more insular.
But then the family so the traditional mom and dad roles, mom and dad are working all the time. So they're not so there with the kids. So our parents as well, were probably starting there where they were out working all the time. Super busy. We're not living with grandparents and other fam, like extended family like they do in other cultures as well.
And so no one's really attuning to the kids because there's so many things to do. So many things are happening. And then certainly now in our kids lives, we are on phones all the time. As well as being super busy and we're con constantly distracted. And so we are not really attuning to our [00:09:00] kids so much anymore.
Mark: I think we're doing better than our parents. Were. In general, from what I see I certainly am, I'm gonna claim it. I feel like I'm much more present. I'm not, I've had
Danni: heaps of time where my kids are talking to me and I'm mid scroll. Yeah. I hate to admit it, but that's the truth. You are hard on yourself trying to work.
Danni, I've seen you
Mark: with your kids and I've seen Ash with your kids, and
Danni: Ashley's a way better parent than me. Okay,
Mark: good. You're good at other things. And look, isn't that an interesting, that, the equal opportunity? You're a pretty good parent. I've seen you with your kids. I know what I know your passion for that.
And look, it's not about being. Superstar, either. It's actually about being honest And just keep showing
Danni: up. Yeah, absolutely. Just keep
Mark: showing up.
Danni: But then in terms of showing up for the kids too, that's one of the reasons I wanted to stop drinking as well. Because I grew up with an addict parent.
Not knowing what I was gonna get half the time, wasn't alcohol, so much is prescription drugs, but it was quite extreme. Very extreme end of it. And. You don't, wouldn't know if you'd get home and mom would be passed out on the floor. Or not, or what mood they were gonna [00:10:00] be in. And I started to recognize this thing that I would always criticize my mom about and be really like, ah, why is it different for me?
I'm drinking alcohol. It's still the same thing. So my kids are also getting a kind of a different version of me, but I'm different, aren't I? When I'm getting really drunk and I'm behaving badly or however I'm behaving or not remembering if I've. Put them to bed or giving them dinner the night before.
So I'm starting to see, this is not just about me now, it was also affecting our relationship, but it's affecting these little people that I need to be present with. And that was also one of the big drivers for me was the kids. Me too. As much as I needed to do it for myself.
Mark: Me too. There's such a barometer with your kids.
You see them and when they just, you feel 'em slipping away, it's oh shit. But my kids were
Danni: little, like taking us off reenacting us being drunk. Goodness. And it was like, oh, this is not what I want. I don't want this. No, but similar to you as well. I started to [00:11:00] dabble with yoga.
I was starting to, I wanted this other way of being, but it was also so far from what I'd grown up with as well. But I felt so outta balance. who am I? Am I this person who wants to be healthy and get into yoga and do all those things? Or am I this trash bag and it just felt so outta balance.
The
Mark: trash bag Yogi. Yeah. I was that I was, that I could literally be at the Rails Hotel in Byron and giving a Satsang I'd studied philosophy. I was really into philosophy and I was thought, I knew, like I could give you a big discourse on yoga, four beers in with a.
Danni: Being age or
Mark: when we used to smoke sies or champion Ruby and then I was the, but deep down I resisted 'cause I'd actually done a fair bit of study.
I resisted teaching I don't want to be that guy. I don't wanna be a teacher.
In that space, I knew that before I tapped, stepped into the teaching role, I really needed to be sober and and actually do some time. So I actually stopped drinking and basically had two years of. Really just [00:12:00] focusing on that.
That was my first, and that's over 15 years ago now, so it was quite a long time ago. But there was two years of I'm just gonna focus on just really simple living, get sober doing it, get more and more into my yoga practice, but not really think about teaching. And I probably, I didn't, I was nearly five years sober before I really stepped into the teaching role.
And go, okay, it's time now. I've done a lot more study and I've been teaching fairly actively. Ever since. You have had an amazing journey since you stopped drinking How many years ago now?
Danni: Seven and a half years ago. Seven and a half? Yeah. That's incredible. I can't believe. Yeah.
Mark: Wow.
What an adventure.
Danni: Yeah. And if you had have told me at the start that I wouldn't be drinking for seven and a half years, I would've bolted. There's no way I would've done that. So it was but that's not
Mark: how you get sober by contemplating what seven and a half years looks like. Okay, I'm gonna stop.
Drinking now? For
Danni: us it was we did a challenge with a group of friends. Okay. And my best friend actually said she was gonna take a year [00:13:00] off alcohol. And it was just like the nod that I needed. 'cause she was also one of my drinking buddies. I was like, I'm in. I was so desperate, mark.
'cause I just recently before that it had a massive blackout. And I just felt so scared and I just didn't know. So I never thought I was gonna quit forever or anything like that. I just thought I just need good amount of time. 'cause I've done lots of one month, here, one month there.
I'm never drinking again. And then boom back on. Yeah. So I thought a year, that's a really long time, but I want something extreme. 'cause I'm quite an extreme person, as and then I said to Ash, Hey, I am doing this. I'm gonna take a year off. Do you wanna do it as well? And he was like, Hmm. okay. 'cause he'd taken some time off as well. And we weren't in good shape. Like our relationship was not in good shape. In fact, there's no way we'd be together now if we hadn't to quit drinking. There's no way. And then some other friends, Scott Bass player, Scott Owen from the Living End, and then his partner and a couple of other musician friends all said, we're in two so yeah, we made this little WhatsApp group, no [00:14:00] idea how. And in the first two weeks I was like, what the fuck? Why am I doing this? This is really shit. It's so hard. And we were on holidays, we're in Melbourne and I was like, this is so hard. I hate this. How am I gonna do one year?
But I, I told everyone as well, and so many people had said to me, I'm calling bullshit on that. There's no way. So I was determined not to. And then. So I thought pretty quickly I've gotta change my mindset. So this is where I first started dabbling with gratitude. And mindset and
Mark: which is a really big part of your practice.
Still gratitude. I wanna talk about that more.
Danni: Yeah. Really started to change my way of thinking about it and started to see it as a bit of a gift. I've got this gift, I've got this opportunity to do this for myself for year. Then Ash and I worked really hard on creating a practice that's nothing like what it is today, but it was something that we could just sink our teeth into.
And that's how we quit really. [00:15:00] Was that the community with having the group of friends doing it together? Yeah. We had a WhatsApp group and just really focusing on getting ourselves out of the shit. Getting outta this. 'cause I was like full of anxiety, like panic attacks nearly every night.
Wasn't sleeping. Just so unhealthy. But the mental stuff, like days and days, like not sleeping 'cause, just stressing about things, worrying really negative. So I knew that had to change. Yeah. And then it as Ash says, it was easy.
Mark: So just as people who don't know that you are a musician and your partner, Ash is also a musician.
So you've been very much in the music industry since. Basically your whole life. Working in the music industry, a lot of your friends are professional musicians. Ash is still touring intensively. Alcohol is synonymous with that world. So it's not just a simple thing to. Okay. Hey, we don't drink anymore.
Although that said, there's some really shining role [00:16:00] models of sobriety. You know what I've found in the music, industry people either drink a lot or they just, they don't drink at all. There's people who have gotten sober and you mentioned Elton John before are really shining. Example, those who didn't die.
A lot of people in the music industry do die, and there's many sad, tragic stories there, but. There are also some amazing stories of amazingly talented human beings who thankfully got the message and got the right sort of help at the time. There's a bit of luck involved really. I think a lot of the time there's just the right people coming.
Those we get these little moments where we teachable and that we get something, providence. Comes through that little group came together. Just at that moment you were like, yeah, cool. I'm up for this. And a little bit of light shines through and somehow or another you grab it.
For me it was very much a bit of luck. There was the right people there at the right time. I'd seen a few people in my world, in my sphere who were sober. I was working in [00:17:00] TV industry a lot in my last few years of drinking. And there was a couple of, actors that I knew who were sober.
Susie Porter, who's a well known Australian actress, beautiful woman. She was five years sober and we worked on a TV show together. Remember she told me like five years, I said, you don't drink Susie . She's five years sober, mark five years sober. And I was like,
Danni: how exactly have
Mark: you managed that?
And she explained her journey to me and was really supportive. And other people, I've got a couple of family members who've been sober. Just people who sort out there. It's not so bad. There's a choice. There's a choice. And I think that's why it's so important for people like you and for people like me who are sober, who've managed to navigate through the maelstrom of it all.
And, through luck, providence, whatever other support that we got, the good decisions that we made. 'cause we did make some good decisions to get to that point where not only being sober, but living your best life, at this point in time. I'd hazard a guess that you are generally pretty content from where I see you.
You've [00:18:00] had an amazing trajectory in your journey of sobriety and this whole thing around how I quit alcohol, you just, it projected you into a totally new phase in life where you've been able to support thousands. Are we up to thousands of people on their own journey of sobriety? And I know many of those people, 'cause we've run retreats and whatnot together.
Who are many years sober and doing amazingly well. And if you hadn't have managed to get that, whatever it is together, who knows where those people would've ended up. And it just, this is it. This is the magic.
Danni: Yeah. It's amazing where you end up like, oh, you just like God. If you think about Danni there having panic attacks and in that first two weeks thinking, what the fuck have I done? No idea that this. Anything even remotely like this would've ever taken place or gosh, bloody how. Yeah.
Mark: The
Danni: mind
Mark: boggles. So at a certain point you decided it was gonna be a good idea to start a podcast and [00:19:00] talk about
Danni: your
Mark: journey of sobriety.
And that was what, four or five years ago now?
Danni: It was actually during COVID. Okay. And I remember there was this ad going out with all these. Australian actors and things saying, don't start a podcast. Whatever you don't start a podcast. It was some funny, I don't know why, who I don't know. Anyway.
And it's got me thinking I should start a podcast. No. But Ashley, how to get
Mark: Danni to do something. Don't do that, Danni. Oh,
Danni: okay. Yeah, exactly. But Ash, my husband had a pod, had a podcast called Soulful Conversations. And I kept, because a lot of people were asking us then, because by then it had been a couple of years and people were starting to say, how fuck did you guys quit?
What the hell? Because we were so well known for, it was always people at our house. It was always a party at our place and like every weekend. And people were like, how the hell did you do it? And all these people who were like, I'm calling [00:20:00] bullshit on this. Were like, and so many people were asking, I said to Ash you should like.
Do a podcast on the not drinking like you and Scott was thinking, and Scott should, I think he did interview Scott on his podcast actually about it. I don't know why I thought doing this, but I just thought I'll just do a few episodes on each of us that quit. So to explain how we went about it, because it was a bit different for all of us.
And so I interviewed Ash at first and I put it out there and it just went went pretty big straight away. Like all these people shared it and were telling other people. And it was like, I was quite shocked. And then I thought, oh, I'll interview Scott next. And so I interviewed Scott and then that got shared around like the music industry and all these people shared it as well.
And then I interviewed Claire, who was Scott's girlfriend. And so the people had quit together. And then my friend Lindel, who was in aa, but just thought, oh, it'd be interesting to hear from someone who's done aa. That's how it [00:21:00] started. And it just, I just got this influx of people like messaging me and just watching the, you could see the stats of your podcast just just, it was insane.
So I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. And then, I don't know, it just started, people started asking other people, I thought it's not just my story. There's so many different ways people have quit
Mark: and they're really and reasons why people have quit and this is the thing. People's journey with alcohol.
'cause you're getting them at the crossroads. And you're getting people at the darkest and then potentially the brightest times of their life. And I've listened to many of your podcasts and it's faster the way that people will lay open
And bear their souls. And this is my story.
I've been on your podcast and share multiple
Danni: times.
Mark: Shared my story and it's a beautiful thing to do. It's really liberating to come in and say, Hey this is what it was like for me. And I've had many people reach out through that podcast and go, wow, wow. Like friends, family, et cetera, et cetera.
People who don't know me who've just reached out and just gone back story [00:22:00] connected with me. I think I told you, I had a family member come to me at Christmas about three years ago and say, oh, I've been, interested in thinking about sobriety and I feel like alcohol's not really working for me.
And I heard you. Were on that Danni Cast podcast and what, asked me a couple of questions and then I think it was two years after that we had another Christmas together and this person said, I've been listening to that podcast a lot. And she said, I've been sober ever since. That's podcast has held my hand and walked me through.
And look, there's lots of different ways. I'm a big fan of 12 step fellowships and it could be a church, it could be a lot of meditation obviously and yoga and breath work. Is the stuff we're into, but there's lots of different ways to achieve. There's all commonality though. I think you touched upon the community as being a big one for you.
Having a, and the podcast brings a community of people who are connecting in lots of different ways. You have groups of people that you bring together, you run courses which are really popular. Giving people just [00:23:00] that little toe in to explore those challenge groups. They have to explain how those challenge groups work.
Danni: Oh yeah. The challenge group is. What's changed? It's evolved so much over time and as I've trained in different things, but it originally started as a three month thing where we'd just be like live Zoom calls every week and just giving people, it was basically exactly what Ash and I, and Scott, and Claire and everyone did at this, like how we did it.
Yeah. We had a journal as well, which I've still got, which is based on the journaling that we did and all the tools that we used. In that year where we quit. And so now it's changed and evolved that challenge like to six weeks and four weeks for this daily practice and all the stuff that you taught me using those tools to suit, calm, sue the nervous system and understanding, while we do, there's lots of different things to it, but it's basically live and online.
Calls daily. And yeah, it helps people. But also going back to the podcast, when I quit alcohol in that [00:24:00] first year, I was listening to, I was trying to find a podcast like mine, and all I could find was a few, like aa. There was probably some out there. I just couldn't find them. All I could find was AA meetings.
So I would listen to AA meetings and go to sleep. Okay. Just listening. But I was always fascinated by people's stories, like hearing, like just all about it. And that was also the other thing that I. When I started the podcast, I was like, yeah, and as it got going, it was like, it's really nice to hear different people's stories because there's always something familiar in someone else's story that you hear no matter even how bad it is.
Or, you might have someone that's only drinks on the weekends or one, one glass of wine at night, but they can't stop. Or someone who's been drinking meth though, and lost their kids but there's all, there's a common. Commonality there.
Mark: There really is. And that's, there's a great power in that, being able to see, I was never a meth drinker, but, and I pray for those people who go down that path.
'cause it's, that's a na nasty shit. But it's the same. We have similarities like [00:25:00] in, did I
Danni: say drinking meth or methyl
Mark: meth? Methyl methylated spirits. You smoke meth, you drink meth. Yeah, that's just checking myself. Either one are bad by the way. The kids at home. Don't touch a meth think that has the word meth in it.
Just stay away. Yeah. Let's just stay away from it. But that idea of connecting with commonality and understanding and it's empathy, which is one of the great
Danni: Yeah.
Mark: Fundamental qualities of the human spirit, which will help us connecting with empathy within us.
Danni: So when I do these groups, it's also like a large it's the same kind of thing.
It's just bringing a group of people together who there's been some in, so we've got a thing called the grads group, which is people who have done my course, who wanna stay connected. They then join another groups grads group, and you've seen I've just seen the most incredible friendships form, and you've seen them on retreats and stuff.
The most incredible lifelong friendships, deep, meaningful friendships that are not based on what the people earn or what they do for a living. No one gives a shit. All we care about is like little wins, yeah. [00:26:00] The juicy stuff. The juicy stuff, yeah. And yeah, so that's also what the courses are about.
They're the best,
Mark: they're the best friends. You know those people who are just, who've seen you at your worst and are cheering for you to be at your best,
Danni: Not even seen you at your worst. 'cause some of these people have never seen each other drink, but they're cheering for you. It's we've, I've talked about this on a retreat and I think we were touching on this the other day, that from the yoga perspective.
When you're drinking, you are practicing ssa like you are harming yourself. And when you've, when you're not drinking and you're actively working on yourself, you're practicing a ssa. So I really notice if I'm around people that aren't practicing a ssa, my energy feels really drained if I'm around people like that constantly.
But it's get me into a situation where you're around people that are all have this commonality. We're all, I don't know, it's. The energy is so different, feels so good to be around people like that. So it really does. It lifts
Mark: you up. It lifts you up. I, it's deeper. Wanna talk more about your story and about your journey?
I'm just gonna give, I'm just gonna do one quick check for a [00:27:00] second. I'm just making sure. Camera's still rolling. Yep. We're good. So I'm just go back in
Danni: that bit out.
Mark: You stopped drinking and you found your way and it sounded like from the get go you made some good choices. Like you mentioned gratitude before. That was for me, like all this, that was introduced to me early in sobriety and I still point to that as being your spirituality 1 0 1.
It's just not that. It's just such a powerful practice. I've supported a whole bunch of people in their early stages of sobriety. It's write that gap gratitude list what five things you're grateful for today. Look at any stage, write the gratitude list. I saw you doing it this morning.
You do it every day.
Danni: Every day. And most nights.
Mark: And most nights. That's one thing that really impressed me about you, Danni, is you're not just, you're not just having a sniff around it. You're just jumping in and you're doing this with every ounce of your being. So I met you and you were probably like a couple of years into [00:28:00] this journey.
At that point in time you did have the podcast. You were in there, you'd a couple of years of sobriety. Yeah. Of
Danni: three, yeah.
Mark: Three years of sobriety. And so I met you originally, you called me up and you were interested in doing the meditation and breath work training for me with me. And that was, however many years ago that was.
And you again just jumped right in. And threw yourself into that. And I think. What I saw there was somebody who was just this enthusiasm, and it wasn't just that you weren't just looking for a new stripe on your shirt. You really wanted to, you wanted what was available.
So talk to me about your journey, meditation, breath work, and particularly yoga nidra.
How was how those practices affected you?
Danni: Oh, massively. So massively. Like I said at the start, I was doing yoga. Off and on and I had a very love-hate relationship with it. So Cy Turner, who I mentioned [00:29:00] earlier she'd done her yoga teacher training and they needed some, to do some practice and stuff at the start.
So I was like, oh yeah, I'll come to your yoga classes. And I I liked it, but I didn't love it. When I was always hungover as well, so I didn't love it. Yeah. Hangovers
Mark: and I
Danni: go just,
Mark: They're not the best of friends.
Danni: Yeah. And then meditation, I hated its guts. Like I hated it. Even Shavasana, the, I remember sometimes like Lucy would once, once they got their studio going in Ocean Shores there, she'd be like leaning everyone into Shavasana.
And I would like, if it was too long, I'd get the shits and walk out and slam the door. Slam the door, yeah. And then she'd be like, oh girl. And all sudden I'm like, can you hurry up? Or I'll just leave. Just go. I just hated it so much. And we were on retreat once and I'm just like, oh, she's. Getting us to meditate and things like that, and just getting really angry.
And she's she's so gentle in her and she's never forceful really. But she's it could be a sign that you might need it. Something. I can't remember [00:30:00] what she said. And that was the same day. I think I turned up drunk to one of the yoga classes on the retreat. And she's just
Mark: were you?
And but where was the retreat
Danni: on Miss GaN? Miss GaN? Okay. She still let me back the next day. But also, and we'd done a little bit of yoga nidra there, different to your style. And so yeah, I just, it kind, it wasn't a great relationship with yoga at the start. But then I started to lie.
I don't know, I just. It was in there a little bit then, and I just started to like it more and more. And we moved to Bali and did lots of online yoga. 'cause I couldn't find a good yoga teacher that I liked, but still persisting with Li and Shane. So every time they'd come to Bali and then I just got to like it more and more.
And just knowing I needed more of that. So I just, I did a Vedic meditation course as well and I really did start to like it then I could feel the effects. Yeah. I've got a super busy mind, as so I could feel it was actually working and it was quite difficult. Then started, yeah, I heard about Yoga Nidra.
I loved Yoga Nidra. I'd done it quite a bit. But then when you came on the [00:31:00] podcast and we started talking about it, I was like, this is, I just started to get into it more. And that's, I think you came on the podcast before I did your course, correct?
Mark: Yeah.
Danni: And then thought, yeah, I've gotta get more of this, and then just, it's like an open Pandora's box, and I just, absolutely fell in love with it. Yeah. So there was a few things that came together. I reached out to this lady called Sam Brown soulful lifestyle, doing breath work with her teaching
Mark: a lot of breath work. Yeah.
Danni: Yeah. So yeah, I was like, I've gotta do this. And I'm, I've always been a bit of a believer in when things are planted in front of you, go with that.
Yeah. If it feels right. And then it was like your course came up and it just all felt, and I quite liked you as well as a human. I thought, I like this guy. He's not full of shit. He swears he's good. Yeah, we can talk. I liked you too, because you, and I'm like this as well, like you're just quite honest about it.
It's not oh, I'm this perfect human who's got it all sorted out. You're like, oh, I lose my shit sometimes or whatever. And that's why I would need the practice. And [00:32:00] and so I was like, yes, that's the person. Yeah. And then just fell in love with it. But, and your course as well was I just loved everything about it, but it was just so rich and deep and balanced.
It wasn't like this big kind of looking for fireworks. It was very steady and balanced, and I loved that It felt safe.
Mark: Yeah, we're looking for that. Safety is good. When we've had the fireworks, right? There's enough fireworks going on. We create enough fireworks. I'm looking for safety in my practice.
I want something. Yeah, me too. I wanna rock, I wanna build, I want my practice to be the touchstone, the rock that I can combat back to. Yeah. And we have Yoga nidra is like our love affair. That's the touchstone that we can get all the, you've been with me this week. We're doing a Kundalini Panara retreat.
We're doing a lot of really dynamic practice. It's very exciting and lots of fun. It's great. But the Yoga Nidra is the one I keep pointing back to and keep for myself, keep coming back to because I need the stillness.
And there is. Pound for pound. I heard Oscar say many times, there is no better practice to give you that deep, [00:33:00] parasympathetic experience that most of us are needing most of the time, particularly those of us that are blessed with this busy brain.
Danni: It's that, it's yoga. I just love and I've just have then taught it to so many people and it's been just so transformative for so many people, and my husband included could really go into that. But ner like the alternate nostril breathing for me is like that and vol are the sort of the two.
I just love it so much 'cause it's again, if you've been really like chaotic in your life Yeah. And really attracted to drama and the chaos, the grounding is, I just need grounding practices all the time. Yeah. The big breathwork stuff, I don't love so much 'cause it's just. I, it's just not what I need.
Yeah, sure. I get that. People need it, and
Mark: that's wisdom and that's wisdom. And people love it. It can shock us into life. So of the time, people who are really Tema can go, okay, you are not suffering from tus. You've got so much pit, so much fire. It's about [00:34:00] birthing about. You need the tus and you need the practices.
Nidra, oma, Naty showed up, but all just really grounding simple s We don't have to overthink them. Yeah. Again, like you, we've had. I know so much about yoga. I know so many amazing different techniques and d wonderful things that you can do with your breath and your body. But it's the simple things that I return back to again and again, which is great when as teachers, we can share that with people.
Say, Hey, here's a simple recording of yoga nidra. If you do this three times a week, I swear to God it will change your life. Throw in Naty soda, a few times a week. Bam.
Danni: Wow. Amazing. That's unbelievable. And the yoga nidra. Oh my god, I love it so much, do it pretty much every day. Okay.
If not most days. I've got a really busy life and I try and I schedule it in usually between two and three in the afternoon and I make sure I block out that time in my work day. It's right before I pick up the kids. Sure. I could be, and I get up really early, like I often get up at three or four and start my [00:35:00] practice or work or whatever. Yeah, me too. So we have. I have to do with that. Yeah. That
Mark: like otherwise nighttimes are not good.
Danni: Yeah. And I could feel the energy drop and then if I go and do Yoga Nidra, even if it's a short one, like 20 minutes or something, I just, it's just resets me and I'm just like a new human again.
When before, if I was tired in the afternoon, I probably drink, or want sweet food,
Mark: mummy wine, they call.
Danni: So it's the greatest and that's why it's so great teaching it to people who are needing to, they need something at three in the afternoon or four before they get the kids, or, it's so powerful.
It's so powerful.
Mark: I'm gonna spin this into a conversation now about the nervous system. Okay. This is one of the things that sort of comes through yoga Nidra practice that you were just pointing to is like what you're doing at two or three o'clock is giving yourself a nervous system, a big reset.
In fact, what we're quite specifically doing is resetting the do. Mean pathways. And just clearing out that buildup of cortisol and in the vasal ganglia, which gives you that [00:36:00] feeling of being quite refreshed. 'Cause Thomas as though you've had a sleep. Yeah. And so you can go into that next part almost as if you're getting many of the effects of significant hours of sleep.
For those of us who get up early, we're getting a profound effect from that yoga for practice and which, empowers us to go into the, whatever happens next, the evening hours. Without reaching for the wine. 'cause what happens if you don't get that? You start feeling, yeah. It's I need some caffeine afternoon coffee, and then I need some wine to settle that down, or a beer or whatever it is.
And try to manage the nervous system through drugs, essentially caffeine and alcohol during the caffeine to keep us up and alcohol to drop us down. And they don't work very well. It's a very slippery, a slippery cocktail. Throwing a little bit of weed just to mix it up a little bit. But what you've done.
Since studying with me is make this study of the nervous system very much central to your own ongoing study and your ongoing teaching. Can you explain a [00:37:00] little bit about what that looked like? Maybe your study with Gabor Mate and ongoing studies, which you're now doing
Danni: well before the course with you as well.
I had done the Gabor Mate Compassionate Inquiry for professionals. So there was lots of exploration into the nervous systems, and that's where things started to go, oh, it's all making sense now.
And I really understood that the drinking was just trying to get my nervous system back into like homeostasis. Like back into the window of tolerance. Anytime that you go to either end of the survival spectrum you usually wanna reach for something to get you back into that state where it feels safe.
You're just trying to get back to safety. And then I understood it's no one's bad, they're just trying to get themselves back to where they feel safe. Even if it's in a like feeling socially awkward or those, or the big stuff, the big trauma stuff that comes up. So I started to understand that a lot of things come into to.
[00:38:00] Ah, so we did some workshops with Deb Dana
Mark: Deb Dana's amazing.
Danni: Yeah. And so I really started to explore the polyvagal theory. And actually at the moment I'm just finishing up applied Polyvagal theory in yoga with Dr. Ariel Schwartz. She's amazing. And Deb Dana was part of that as well.
Mark: Can I just interrupt Deb, Donna is.
For people who don't know, can you just give us a bit of an explanation? She's the
Danni: author of a book called Anchored, and there's another couple of books as well, but I can't think of them now. But she took what Stephen Porges had put together, this polyvagal theory, which was not really palatable for most people.
She made it understandable. Yeah. So yeah, she's great. She's Beau. Oh God, so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. She's like having a warm hug, just
Mark: touching.
Danni: She's a
Mark: very wise and warm. I do have a full podcast with Simon Dubois if anyone is interested. That was a great podcast. Podcast. He goes deep into po. He's a great teacher on Polyvagal theory, but for all of us, it's all fairly new.
He's a seasoned [00:39:00] psychologist spoken to Dr. Oscar Serrallach just recently, who again is very much in that functional medical world and working a lot with yoga nidra in his clinic. And polyvagal theory is really this understanding that we've got, it's really new on. And in the world. So Deb Dana's only published her work like in the last six or seven years, and it's profound because what it does is really empower the tools that we have. And now you've got this ability to apply the tools and really supportive and informed way.
Danni: Yeah. I always do part of the I've run workshops on the nervous system. And also do it as part of the curriculum of my course.
And I just see so many people go, oh, like the penny drops as well. They're like. Oh, like they really understand that all they're trying to do is control the nervous system. Yeah. For drinking. So if you can give them other tools to control the nervous system to bring it back online, they don't need the alcohol so much anymore.
Yeah. That they realize that, oh, I've got these internal [00:40:00] resources within me to regulate myself and to feel safe in my own body again. I don't need that. I don't need to grab for anything else outside of myself. So powerful. So amazing. It's a really
Mark: beautiful experience that can happen when you look at yourself through that model.
We talk about the window of tolerance. It's okay, there's my window of, in which I'm safe and comfortable, but if I'm outside that window, if I'm overstressed or fatigued or whatever it is, I start to get wobbly. I'm either gonna get really anxious or depressed, go into whatever it is, fight or flight, or maybe I'll go into a foreign response.
But if I'm in my window, I'm okay. And if I am anxious and upset and it's because I'm disre. It's not because I'm a bad person. I think that's what a lot of us have is this idea of, I'm a bad person. I drank because I'm a fucking idiot. I'm just this, I'm that ands self-flagellation, which no doubt we're all guilty of in some way, shape or form.
But this idea that it's actually I was just irregular and in fact I'm dealing with a level of trauma that. I [00:41:00] can't even understand. It's not even my fault. I came from a world of an upbringing that was just, it wasn't quite right. Yeah. There was, I was, there was things that I wasn't getting.
And I love, I've done a couple of sessions with you where we've explored this and I've seen you explore it with many other people. The beautiful world of compassionate inquiry.
Danni: One other thing about the nervous system too, I just wanted to add was that. This, like I've started to also see it as I know Deb, Donna also refers to like the window of tolerance as being a bit like your house.
And imagine that a little child is in this house and they feel very secure and safe in their house, but if they wander out of the house, which we all do, we all leave our window of tolerance all the time. Sure. Yeah. And I started to think of it like, yeah, it's like this kid leaves the house and if they get a little bit out of the house, they feel a bit, oh, they're looking back at the house.
Which is the window of tolerance. They're looking back there and they can see it. They know that they can get back there, but when they've wandered too far, it feels really scary. And you're looking and you can't find your way [00:42:00] back. And they're terrified and they get back there.
The only way they know how, which was some people who's drinking now, we do breath work and things like that to get back. But then the more breath work and the more tools that we do to support our window of tolerance. The bigger it gets. And so then that child, doesn't matter how far they go, they're able to see that house and return home.
'cause that's all we're doing is trying to return home. Yeah. And I yeah, that's how I like to see it. Love it. That's great. That's great. You and
Mark: I were having a conversation earlier today and we were talking about even in our current enlightened states times of being really anxious. And uncertain and having some really negative thought patterns, et cetera, et cetera.
And that's for us. That's when we get out of our window of tolerance. And I said back to you, it was like number one, I said, I've had a similar experiences and not, not long enough ago, far enough ago that I forget, like they, and they'll happen again. I'm sure of it. Sure they'll happen again.
But I said to you that, you now have problems in areas where you didn't have areas.
So your [00:43:00] world, your house has gotten so much bigger. It's I've got a new room up there now I have a problem about that room. And it's actually need to, whereas, my, certainly the end of my drinking days was a lot of it was spent sitting on a couch on my own.
It wasn't a big house, it was a very small house. And I didn't want leave.
Danni: And the more we drink and things like that, the smaller that house becomes, doesn't it? Tiny? 'cause life becomes so small. So small, yeah. And we get out like. Triggered and pissed off and all those things so easily, so we're outta that window of tolerance again.
Yeah, it's really interesting. But who the fuck am I I'm like, it's so incredible that I'm even having this conversation with you because seven years ago this, there's just no way like even to have an understanding of any of that.
Mark: Here we are just, doing our best. One day after the next, it's brought us here.
We are together people. It's amazing we didn't explain it. We're doing a course together in Bali at the moment. You and I have run multiple retreats together in Bali at the moment. We've got another one coming up. We [00:44:00] just booked another course for June 10th of the 15th. A beautiful life.
Danni: 2026. 2026.
A beautiful life retreat.
Mark: A beautiful life retreat. We'll talk a little bit more about that at the end of the podcast, but. Which I think we're getting close to. I feel like we've covered a lot of ground. I understand I've pretty got a pretty clear picture of why you quit alcohol.
That's a, doing everyone a favor, I reckon, by us quitting alcohol. I think so. A public service. We're better off without it. Yeah. The world is better off with us not drinking. I think for my family, they're all pretty happy that it's okay, we are better off that way. Me and my old family, they all loved to drink and, they should all do your course. Daddy. I should point 'em in your direction. They won't, but they should.
Danni: There's a lot of people that won't but
Mark: should.
Danni: One thing like of people listening as well, 'cause there's no judgment against people that drink. But even if you're drinking like one glass of wine at night, 'cause you've had a rough day at work.
The craving is your nervous system. Telling you that it needs something, it's wanting to return home. You can have a glass of wine, whatever, but maybe before you have the [00:45:00] glass of wine, try a few rounds of Nadi Shodhana first or extend your Exhale or some of Ty first Yoga Nidra. Just try something like that first and then see if you still want the alcohol.
Yeah, because anytime you crave anything, be it a chocolate bar or anything, if you was to stop and check in first, where is my nervous system at? Yeah. Then I bet you there's no way you're in your window of tolerance. There is no way very rarely think that someone would make that choice from there.
Yeah. But there's also, I did a course with Dr. Lauren Tober. Yes. I did her, I can't remember the name of it now, but it was a great short course on, she was
Mark: former informed yoga. She does a course. Yeah. It was
Danni: For people working in the mental health space. Yeah. But she was teaching the them how to do the breath work and all those things.
It was a really great course too. And her. Take on the nervous system and linking that with Rajas and Tamas and Sattva it's so amazing. Like she is, she's incredible. Has she been on this [00:46:00] podcast? Not yet. Oh, you gotta get her on. She's awesome. That was also a really great course as well.
Yeah,
Mark: we're fortunate. There's some amazing people. In our direct community, we live in the northern rivers of New South Wales, but. Via the internet. We can access a lot of our studies being with people in the US and Europe, wherever, in Bali there's some incredible people out there who are really, they're doing the work themselves, and they're exploring, they're publishing the science that's around people like Andrew Huberman who are publicizing a lot of the science and making it cool.
It's cool. It's not just about biohacking. People, this whole biohacking culture, it's yeah, that sounds like fun, but I'm into. Contentment culture. Like it's not about being an alpha mark, like I'm, I just want to be happy mark, content mark and dealing with life, keeping it as simple as possible.
Just a one more question, I think I really wanna there's so many things I could ask you and the conversation will continue over time, I'm sure. But I would like to know just a little bit more about what your practice is [00:47:00] now and what really inspires you. Now And what inspires you moving forward?
So you've mentioned the gratitude list, which is, seems to be perennial.
Yoga nidra and simple breath work, which seems to be really core practices. What else do you do that just lights, keeps you in your window of tolerance?
Danni: I do a lot 'cause I've got a very expansive practice. Yeah. But also I, like I said, I get up very early in the morning.
So I wouldn't expect everyone maybe to have such an extensive practice, but I get up and have a wee in the morning. Okay. That's a practice. Yep. And then I come, go back to either sitting on my bed or the end of my bed and then I do a Vedic style meditation first. And I set my timer for around about 15 or 20 minutes.
You
Mark: have a mantra work with just so hum. Okay. I just use some yeah.
Danni: And and then after that I'll go maybe have a coffee and then I'll bring that back and I'll flick on my red light therapy panel. I'll do maybe a bit more meditation or then I'll do some breath work. Okay. So I always do vol and then I get up and maybe I'll start journaling.
Then I'll stop [00:48:00] at some point in there and I don't do it this, oh. Actually do the same structure every day. And then I journal at some point in the morning, usually with a coffee. So I do gratitude practice every day. So all the things I'm grateful for. The people I'm grateful for, why I am grateful for them.
Pick out one thing and really expand on that, and just really get into it. And then if something's bothering me, perhaps, which is often just trying to work through that a little bit in my journal. I did a course with Dr. Rick Hanson years ago and he had this beautiful practice, his amazing, have you read any of his books?
Neuroma You Would Love? Oh my God, you'd so nerd out on him. Anyway, he. Oh, it's a long just in short, in his meditation practices, so he's a psychologist and a neuroscientist. You would love him, but he is also right into meditation and yoga. Okay. And so he said thing called the caring committee, where you might have something that's bothering you and you have three people in your caring committee, and one of them is a fairy godmother type.
Then there's an [00:49:00] inner coach, and then there's the wise sage. So anything that's bothering me, I bring it to the caring committee or bring them in. And so the fairy godmother is oh, and they just love you unconditionally and you write what they would say to you. And then you inner coach for me is like Tony Robbins, a lot of swearing.
And then the Wise Sage for me, and it's usually like Wayne Dyer or Michael Singer or someone like that, their voice. So journal with those kind of things, those different journal practices. And then I do some arsana Okay. Practice as well. And so that's could be anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour. Yeah.
And yeah. But I, this is one thing when I quit alcohol, I made myself a deal that I would do one yoga pose a day. Didn't matter what it was, but as long as I did one and I'm pretty much stuck to that. Amazing. And and now it's expanded, but I would say for people listening or if they don't have, but I'm assuming most people who listen to this podcast.
Have practice, but I say to my people as well, just do one thing a day. Set your phone for two minutes. [00:50:00] Start there. Yeah. And you might expand another minute in a month's time.
Mark: Yeah.
Danni: But don't just start small. Yeah, absolutely.
Mark: Start with, I remember doing a meditation course and coming back I do, did a 10 David P sit note, came back and I caught up with a friend who had done a similar course, which was quite intense.
At the end of that, they recommended. This, the guy came passion and said, oh, you need to do two 30 minute sit every day. I'm like, fuck, am I gonna have two young kids? I said, where am I gonna get time for that? And I said this to my friend, I said, do you keep practicing? And she said, yeah, all the time, every day.
I was like, where did she have three kids? It's like, how do you find time with three young kids? She goes, one conscious breath. I said, wow. One conscious breath. And so that's a meditation practice and that's a building block. And it's Hey, I've got time for that. Yeah, let's make it two today.
Danni: Yeah.
Mark: One pose. Yeah. That. And what I often find if I do one pose. Oh
Danni: yeah, that's right. Let's do another one. And all of a sudden that
Mark: anxiety drops a little bit and you're like, oh, I've actually got a bit more time than I thought. That feels really nice. I'll do a few and look whatever it ta. It's for me, and this is something you've [00:51:00] really impressed me over the years with, is your commitment to Saer.
And this is the saer is a word we use in yoga. The actions made towards a spiritual goal. So it could be yoga Nidra, it could be your gratitude, Lisa. Could be your as in a practice, your pranayama, whatever it is, taking the daily walk. Something that's gonna make you a better, that better version of yourself.
And you've committed to lots of different things. The study is a big part of it too. You've been really Oh, study massive. Yeah. Really dedicated student. And it looks different to me and it's gonna look different to other people. And it's what can you do that's gonna fit in with your world?
Maybe it's the yin yoga class twice a week. I remember your sister came and did the retreat with us. In Bali last year and she committed, a lot of people walked outta that, that retreat and go, this is my commitment to the next year of, these are the little things and that's the getting of Sadana.
But
Danni: that's because you make you, and Stina made the yoga really accessible for them. And that makes people fall in love with the [00:52:00] practice like, and that's where Lissie turned around for me as well. And I remember being on retreat with her once and there was a lady there who'd been in a car accident.
And she was all broke. Like she had been all broken up and she has lots of injuries on her body. And I was firstly amazed that she'd come on the yoga retreat. She spent most of the time in Shavasana. Yeah. And I remember saying to Lucy later, what's the point? Yeah. What's, and then she said, she's here and she's on, it doesn't matter.
She's just here in, it's amazing. And I was like, oh. And she's anything you do just stay in child's pose if you don't. And I was like, oh. And then it started to. That's when I started to start to like yoga. I was like, I don't have to stand there like in pain and hurting myself and injuring myself.
I can just do what suits me. And then you and Stina were very much like that on the retreat, like lots of using blocks and and that's also when I started to fall in love with props.
And I just use a prop now.
Mark: Love the props. All the props. Yeah. Yeah.
Danni: It was amazing. And you guys were so great like that.
And that's a big, that makes a big difference for people when they can feel [00:53:00] that permission to support themselves. Yeah. Which is a nice gift to give yourself. If you are giving yourself permission to use a block, you're telling yourself that you matter enough to care for yourself. It's for me, it's a caring option.
I could stand here and hurt myself in trick and arsenal, or I can get a block. And support myself. And that's giving myself and my nervous system also the signal that I'm cared for.
Mark: Yeah.
Danni: And just that
Mark: I'm gonna take care to do it properly. I'm just gonna make sure that this is supportive and appropriate for me.
Yeah. And I'm not trying to keep up with that person over there. Yeah. I'm gonna do it in a way that works for me and that goes for all the practices, finding the practice that works for me. Yeah. Maybe it's yoga nidra, maybe. It's the daily walk. Maybe it's the gratitude list. Yeah. Maybe it's having a month off the booze.
Maybe. Maybe, maybe they can reach out and see a psychologist and ask the questions and get the support and guidance of what, what would work.
Danni: Yeah.
Mark: So a hundred percent. Look, I'm gonna draw. I hate to do it. I'm gonna put a little punctuation mark there. And we have a class to get to oh, my mine's gone flat,
Danni: so that's not happening very soon.
Mark: [00:54:00] Good. But thank you so much Danni. It has been Thanks for having me. An absolute pleasure. It really has been. I've enjoyed this kind. So nice to turn 'cause you're the interviewer.
Danni: Yeah.
Mark: And you've interviewed me a few times now, five, six
Danni: times.
Mark: It's really nice to be able to spin that around and ask some of the big questions, thank you. Thank you for joining me in the General Revolution podcast.
Danni: Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to our retreat.
Mark: Yes. Next year we're gonna be in Bali. 10th to the 15th of June, actually, here where we're recording the podcast, which is the delightful Sava Eco Retreat. Stunning up in the hills of Tabban, on the shadow of one of the ancient mountains of Bali.
It's a really special spot and quite
Danni: cool in temperature.
Mark: Yeah, it's, it'd be cooler, not too hot than the coast. Definitely a lot quieter and the focus of the retreat, Danni is.
Danni: Creating a beautiful life. It's called a beautiful Life Retreat. So we're using the system of yoga, not just the arsana, but the pranayama, the philosophy and just beautiful [00:55:00] discussions around how, just using that system of yoga can create a beautiful life.
That is big and rich and juicy and Yeah.
Mark: Yeah. It's, yeah. And look, it's bigger than yoga too, so it's not just for the yogis and likewise, it's not just for people who are. Sober or who are, wanting to get sober really is a retreat that we're opening up to everybody. Everyone who wants a beautiful life.
Yeah, and there's teachings that come through yoga through the philosophy. Really simple teachings that I think one of the things we do really well is to show people that it's not just about doing our scenarios or the breath work. We'll use all that stuff and we'll do it, but doing it in a way that makes sense to people so that they can connect with a practice that feels good, a spiritual practice.
That supports us to live that best version of our lives. Really? That's what that's what we're shooting for. It's gonna be
Danni: beautiful.
Mark: Yeah. Have a look on either of our websites. You'll find the information. How do we find more about you? Where do we find you?
Danni: Probably Instagram at how I Quit Alcohol.
Or the [00:56:00] website is I quit alcohol.com
Mark: au. I'm on
Danni: Facebook as well.
Mark: Facebook as well. And you show up from time to time.
Danni: I'm around.
Mark: If you don't know of Danni's podcast already, check it out. There's some amazing interviews, withi on there, but like she's got a UE of amazing guests that you've up to, I think you said 300 episodes.
What are we up to? Yeah,
Danni: 303 this week. 304.
Mark: Amazing. Amazing. It's a real legacy of work. A body of work. So I highly recommend Danni's podcast and I highly recommend Danni Carr. Thank you.
Danni: Thank you.
So I do hope that you enjoyed that episode as much as I did. Uh, it was a fantastic conversation. Danny has a way about her, of inspiring people, certainly of inspiring me. So if you wish to connect with Danny, check out how I quit alcohol on Instagram [00:57:00] Or I quit alcohol.com as her website. She is a really inspiring human, and if you're interested about learning more about sobriety, please do feel free to reach out to me. There's a couple of podcasts actually on Danny's podcast where I speak quite openly about my journey, so I'm really happy to support.
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